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哈斯效应  发帖心情 Post By:2007-7-29 4:03:07 [显示全部帖子]

从百度查到的是

哈斯效应
当两个强度相等而其中一个经过延迟的声音同时到聆听者耳中时,如果延迟在30ms以内,听觉上将感到声音好像只来自未延迟的声源,并不感到经延迟的声源存在。当延迟时间超过30ms而未达到50ms时,则听觉上可以识别出已延迟的声源存在,但仍感到声音来自未经延迟的声源。只有当延迟时间超过 50ms以后,听觉上才感到延迟声成为一个清晰的回声。这种现象称为哈斯效应,有时也称为优先效应。 


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还贴个从一本书上拍的.
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以下是引用okk在2007-07-29 17:01:48的发言:

是不是可以推论:

音箱的面板区域的反射、散射、衍射(30CM以内,延时<= 1MS)没有哈斯效应,对听觉影响巨大.

而房间的反射、散射、衍射等(60CM到10M范围,2MS >= 延时<=30 MS )受哈斯效应屏蔽,对听觉影响可忽略.

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哈斯效应是讲分辨来自不同声源的同样的声音的听觉效应.


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以下是引用lovemusic在2007-07-29 23:17:32的发言:

关于哈斯效应的定义南大的培训教材上有明确的定义

不好讲是定义,应该是描述,南大的培训教材上,我想应该有吧.


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  发帖心情 Post By:2007-7-30 12:44:24 [显示全部帖子]

再贴上一段维基百科的,是英文的.

Haas effect
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Haas effect is a psychoacoustic effect related to a group of auditory phenomena known as

the Precedence Effect or law of the first wave front. These effects, in conjunction with

sensory reaction(s) to other physical differences (such as phase differences) between

perceived sounds, are responsible for the ability of listeners with two ears to accurately

localize sounds coming from around them.

When two identical sounds (i.e. identical sound waves of the same perceived intensity)

originate from two sources at different distances from the listener, the sound created at

the closest location is heard (arrives) first. To the listener, this creates the impression

that the sound comes from that location alone due to a phenomenon that might be described as

"involuntary sensory inhibition" in that one's perception of later arrivals is suppressed.

The Haas effect occurs when arrival times of the sounds differ by up to 30 - 40

milliseconds. As the arrival time (in respect to the listener) of the two audio sources

increasingly differ beyond 40ms, the sounds will begin to be heard as distinct; in audio-

engineering terms the increasing time difference is described as a delay (audio effect) , or

in common terms as an echo (phenomenon)

The Haas effect is often used in Public Address systems to ensure that the perceived

location and/or direction of the original signal (localization) remains unchanged. In some

instances, usually when serving large areas and/or large numbers of listeners, loudspeakers

must be placed at some distance from a stage or other area of sound origination. The signal

to these loudspeakers may be electronically or otherwise delayed for a time equal to or

slightly greater than the time taken for the original sound to travel to the remote

location. This serves to ensure that the sound is perceived as coming from the point of

origin rather than from a loudspeaker that may be physically nearer the listener. The level

of the delayed signal may be up to 10 dB louder than the original signal at the ears of the

listener without disturbing the localization.

The Haas effect is also responsible in large part for the perception that a complete complex

audio field is reproduced by only two sound sources in stereophonic and other binaural audio

systems and it is also utilized in the generation of more sophisticated audio effects by

devices such as matrix decoders in surround sound technologies, such as Dolby Pro Logic.


For a time in the 1970's, Audio Engineers used the Haas effect to simulate that a sound was

coming from a single speaker in a stereo sound system, when it was actually coming from

both. This was to compensate for the fact that a sound coming from a single speaker would be

3db lower in volume than a sound coming from both. This technique has problems if the stereo

sound is mixed to mono, as a Comb filter effect would occur. Also, the Aesthetics of sound

mixing changed to exclude the use of solo instruments emanating from a single corner of the

sound field in most popular recordings.

Named after Helmut Haas who described the effect in his doctoral dissertation "Über den

Einfluss eines Einfachechos auf die Hörsamkeit von Sprache" to the University of Göttingen,

Germany. An English translation was published in December,1949. [1]


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以下是引用okk在2007-07-30 17:13:36的发言:

那些反射、散射、衍射波们正是来自不同方向但是同样的声音呀.

是不是它们虽搅乱了频响,但却听不出来,感觉不到这种搅乱的频响.

若是心理效应,是否有人的感觉不同呢?

听觉系统的奥秘不光是一个哈斯效应,

哈斯先生是针对那样两个声源做的实验,然后总结出规律性的东西,

就称之谓哈斯效应了.

"若是心理效应,是否有人的感觉不同呢?"

是因人有小异的,但是有平均的说法,请看上面资料中关于50MS,40MS,30MS的一些说法.

"反射、散射、衍射波们正是来自不同方向但是同样的声音呀."

在人的听觉系统中当然也有效应,在50MS内到达的是有益的,...

那要好好调出书来看的啊.


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以下是引用松香味在2007-07-31 00:18:02的发言:
在设计音乐厅或听音室时,控制“混响时间”使声音清晰度不受影响的同时,声音又变得更加“丰富饱满”,这应该是哈斯效应的具体应用吧。(?)

这个问题是不好直接答YES和NO.

音乐厅和听音室的设计是不同的出发点.

要想多少搞请一些就是要从两方面去学习,

一是建筑声学,二是心理声学,

或者说,一是房间内声波的物理特征,

二是人在那个环境中的感受,..

......

一句两句是讲不完的.

起码是要读或翻一下管善群教授的

<电声技术基础>.

英文资料当然多,也容易从网上取得.


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以下是引用松香味在2007-08-27 20:01:16的发言:
哈斯效应————是不是多轨录音常常被用来“制造声场”、“调整乐器定位”的手段呢?

最近是泛泛而读些书,没有深入读书和实验,所以没法作好回答.

大概地讲,50MS确认算是一个重要的值,人耳接受了直达声后的50MS内所获得的直达声的反射声对人耳

的听觉确实是重要的.


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